Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
STOP
Please...
- No more working on design aspects for designs that don't meet the goals. Read old notes carefully before diving in.
- No More using images that we're not going to really want on the site in the end.
- No more just showing up with new designs. Help narrow work that has already been done, or explain why you are going to make changes, and see if people agree with your ideas before spending time designing.
NEW BASIC DESIGN *WIREFRAME*

or

Can we use this type layout, definitely change colors and so on, but use this as a wireframe? It will fit into the current site (things like the quote box and logo basically as-is... whatever isn't sketched doesn't change. Both designs use the icons in the #1 box, and an Erin sketch as the next step for conference and festival in the #3 box.) Do we have the structure right? (The menus should absolutely be a different color from the 1-2-3.) Stop, then, if so, can anyone handle redesigning the colors and details?
The first design, perhaps pop the #1 box upwards, the logo to the right, and then move the quotes under the #1 box.
Planning Notes on SpSh Home Redesign
- Build a good foundation in limited time -- get it done soon
- Major upgrade goals
- Integrate quotes into every page, celebrate our successes.
- Get more images onto the site.
- Integrate multi-media. Include Demo videocast (rather than a live demo that needs to be maintained and has a two-minutes-is-too-long learning curve.) Make it possible for people to experience the site without reading much.
- Hey, read this:Update: see http://greeneventsguide.org/spaceshare/spaceshares-homepage
Minimalist Wireframe, Front Page:
Three main sections which should be seen in order as an introduction to the organization:
1. "What we do" section, very basic information.
1. Sub-section, Green Travel: Share the ride, share a flight, share a hotel room.
2. Sub-section, Networking & Web: Ambassador Programs, Discussion Forums & Event Websites
* These are not links, not a menu. Probably have more information pop up on mouseover, but we don't want people wandering the site.
2. Why We Do It
* This is the "advertisement" reading.
* "Green Events are better events: more accessible, better networked. Since 2003 we've helped hundreds of events and thousands of individuals: people have attended events they couldn't afford or couldn't reach; they've made friends, met potential clients, formed regional groups, started discussions online and off; and made their travels much greener."
3. Customized for/with You (or who we do it for). This emphasizes festival planners and conference planners ==> assumably with giant buttons that are the obvious "next step" for most people coming to our website for the first time (that we most care about).
"We are a service provider for event planners. Our typical clients are festivals, marathons or other informal events that need carpooling; and business or professional conferences where roomsharing, flight-connections and networking are also key."
I'll probably import the site into Drupal 6 (it's a hand-built content management system now -- importing by script should be pretty easy, since it's pretty consistent.)
See http://spaceshare.com/community/redesigning-main-website-late-2005 for some sadly ancient-but-relevant of date notes.
Original sketch: (this kind of sketch is a little bit of a cheat -- what do sidebars look like? details? --> it's much easier to get it to look right at this scale then in various browsers.)

Stacie's Design:

Stephen's thoughts:
I'd like a more vibrantly unique site. The bug looks like an old car with young passengers -- fine for the Green Events Guide but too informal and non-conferency for the homepage. I was leaning towards making the sidebars more bubbly (more like the current left menu) rather than more restrained (more like the current right-menu). The left-hand items are not menu items but info-bubbles (not links). ** Can other people please chime in with comments that reflect both the goals of the site and the design issues?! ** Should we be heading towards the angle-type designs, or this?
Early June:
Trying to get everything laid out on the page. Would like to connect the various nav elements with black decorative lines. More powerful colors and fades likely. Intending to make left and right columns look more similar to each other. Vertical lines will be used, but possibly not as borders, but rather as "post" that things are attached to or within. Help would be wonderful -- but share ideas before charging ahead with something, pls avoid everyone going in different creative directions...

Playing some more:

And some more:

And an old page that I rather like, but never expanded on (see spaceshare.com/blog_gmic ... it uses a back-and-forth as we go between theory and specific):

Erin's:

Stephen:
- I like the flow, the expressiveness. The texture of the overlapping circles.
- The textures and circles, the creation of eye-centers.
- Circular, small "View a Demo" and such. Though we should move to all-circles if we go this way.
I'm worried about:
- maintenance (what if we have one more video?),
- difficulty in creating drop-down menus. There's too little information on this page compared to what we need. Maybe we can design our own drop downs by hand from the circular menu, but that's a lot of work.
- too many styles, too many fonts. Our logo, the hippy car, the circles, the arrows --> it's just too much. (Might be just intended as an experiment-doc like mine?)
- Don't like the arrows. Even with a new graphic, the tendency of separation and spreading is distracting.
- There is a loss of information: I think the "Green Travel" and other categories are important.
- the need to have two completely different templates (can't use this design for the regular pages.),
- lack of orderliness getting people confused -> it leans towards everyone clicking the demo, which isn't a good first step.
- I really don't like the hippy car added as a minor component... there's too many pseudo-logos on the page.
Jeff's Re-designs if Erin's Design:
Home:

Internal pages

[Designer hat:] Feels like we're heading in the right direction. Should point out that you have to expect all kinds of widths of screens, and many of our pages are going to be longer than fit neatly on the screen, but I can see working around both of these limitations pretty easily -- I like the idea of having the circles continue but become much greyer. I wonder whether to use circles or angled lines like our logo. I'm not sure how much these designs are web-ready in terms of: size (does it require scrolling to see key information?) -- some of the prettiest looking designs have distinct bottoms, but we don't have that on web, especially at the dimensions they were designed at; readability (maybe some of the overlapping patterns should be erasures/white directly under the text?) I think we must differentiate the green travel tools and other things we do into intelligible sets. No?
[Information management]
- We have three sections: What we do, Why We Do It, and Customized for/with You (or who we do it for). I'd like to make this more explicit. It would be good if it was in the right order visually (though I think it's prettier in the designs that have it in the wrong functional order.)
- The original re-design http://www.greeneventsguide.org/spaceshare had an intention of a lot of interactive information: every time you moused over something like the sections on what we do, it would explain it in a bit more detail. The idea was that you wouldn't lose your place, and could see the outline of the site (What we do, Why we do it, get started with the customized version for you), while learning more about specific aspects before you dive into the specifics of the site (conference or festival). The recent redesign UI's seem to be missing this: they assume people will get-it as they look at things that aren't all that clear. Team: as reviewers and co-creators, Stephen really likes comments on things like this. If you don't like an idea or feel a piece of information isn't worth keeping, say it! Don't just design it out. Or review the sites that have removed key pieces as being prettier because they are less cluttered. This is part of how we went around in circles with the Green Events Guide -- vital pieces keep getting removed in cleaner looking versions, so everyone likes the new version because it's cleaner, and the new design looks as cluttered as the old. We're going to need menus on our pages!
- The newer designs keep looking cleaner -- and as a team we do this every time we redesign something -- partly by removing information. There are no menus. Some of the fundamental goals from the very first "what is the site for" are missing, like travelers.
- So a real question as we look at these sites as reviewers: which sites work best from an information architecture perspective? Will we wish we had a more linear site later made more beautiful (the earlier designs) or a beautiful drawing stretched into a website with things patched on later?
Stacey sent in four designs:
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Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
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Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
Hi All,
I realise it's late to weigh in on this. Personally out of Stacey's I like #1 the best, I think it draws me right to the 5 icons showing what we do. I'd rather look at these pics than read text ..when surfing the net I dont read a lot.
I still like Erin's the best though out of all the designs.
I think a big question we need to resolve is, Who is more important: festivals or conferences?
...if we go Erin's route we get a fun site that festival people will want to use; if we go Stacey's route we get a professional site that is more conference focussed. Or maybe we can find a middle way.
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
So does this mean we're not using http://greeneventsguide.org/spaceshare/? I was a little confused by all the redesigns... I actually liked the layout at http://greeneventsguide.org/spaceshare/, though I also like Jeff's redesign of Erin's layout.
Comments esp relating to Stacey's designs
Some very basic issues:
• We have three sections: What we do, Why We Do It, and Customized for/with You. These aren't clearly ordered in the logical set & order in the designs.The new designs head away from, rather than focusing in on, the 1-2-3 flow of our most important points. These designs often mix sections together. "Conference Planner, Festival Planner, Demo" is not the right set.
• Cathal as a traveler headed to the "What we do" instead of the travelers section on multiple designs
Stacey, questions:
• Why did you find new images instead of using our icons?
Designs Stacey 1-4
For almost all the designs:
a. Design: It's very busy with photographs. The images kindof crash.
b. UI/Function: It makes "Share a Ride" seem like something to click on, and "Conference Planners" kindof disappears, and is logically grouped with the demos and such.
• 3 & 4 seem cramped -- we have a lot to explain, they don't have the space for text.
• all designs but #2 people are going to click on the "What we do" images, but those aren't intended as individual links... plus they have to "back up" to go from what we do, to how we will do it for their event.
• 3 This seems like a more nicely integrated design, cleaner: I like that some characteristics are photos, others drawn.
• 1 & 4 have photo overload -- to many photos that don't carry a similar message too close to each other
• 3 fails to re-direct travelers completely. The others don't emphasize it quite as much as I'd like.
• If we're going to use photos, they must be of people sharing (not one person in a car or room). In general I'm not a fan of lots of images that don't have a clear, instant message. It's harder for SpaceShare: on Gray Davis's site, the site is partly about people, so you put up photos of the people and the site makes sense.
What I'd like to see:
• I'd like some branding elements. There is very little of this in Stacey's designs. The Community site itself does some with it, half ok, with little logos near the titles. I like the idea of corners cut at the same angle as our logo. Does anyone else, or disagree?
• I'd like to see "what we do" flow into "who we do it for" and cause people to first understand the basics of what we do, then understand why they want it, and have the button to click (festival or conference) right there.
• Maybe less squares: I kindof like the little circles for things like "View Demo". Perhaps we could use diamond images puzzled-together for the "What we do" --> visually connect them into groups. (In general we're not doing much with visual imagery integrating into UI and message ... I think if we don't have the skills/photos to do it right, we should back off and use more text.)
• The images are not clear enough for small-font on things like "Conference Planners" or "View a Demo" --> People are going to be looking at a whole lot of images of this and that, rather than narrowing down quickly. There is not enough skim-ability.
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
Hi Everyone,
I've been thinking alot about how to respond to all of the different website options. I have to agree with Cathal in that I do like my design the most, and jeff's version of it second. It's not because I made it, but because I like color and creativity and the site seems more personalized in communicating what spaceshare is about- new idea, creative approach to problem solving, useful, easy to work with. If we were to go with my site, I would also recommend that things get shifted, that it is more utilitarian, better allocation of space, etc. In terms of the information presented on my page vs stacey's all of the same information and menus are there. From a festival planner's perspective I find mine and jeff's pages the quickest for connecting me with what I'm looking for.
In general I find Stacey's designs very standardized and heavy on boxes and icons. The sites seem impersonal. Too much compartmentalization.
From a festival planner's perspective I find getting to the button a bit of a search. One image one my eye is initially drawn to the "green travels" and "networking and web" sections and then I have to look around a bit before I find my link. On image 2 I initially look at the "green events are better events" text, then my eye goes to the "green travels" and "networking and web" sections on the left, then I have to find my link on the top. In image 3 my eye travels first from the image of the people walking in front of the building, then downward to the menu bar, further down to the icons, then the text and then I have to look around for my link for festival planners. In image 4 I first look at the grand central image with the logo then to the right to the conference planners festival planners, etc icons- this is the easiest for me to find what I'm looking for.
In general I'm not crazy about most of the images (stock photos) used in stacey's designs- I especially don't like the grand central station image of people dispersed. In general in images 1,3,4 I feel like the sites seems comprable to orbitz.com or expedia.com- cheap travel search engines. Which we are not. On image two I like the left hand menu for green travel and networking. I don't like image one much at all. I feel like I forget to look at the logo of spaceshare about the site, which means people would forget us. In image 3 I like the black and white drawing on the top of the page but I don't feel like it has much to do with spaceshare which is more focussed on transportation. I don't really like the rest of the layout. I like image 4 the most but I don't like the icons and photos used, I just like the composition, the movement of my eye around the site.
Back to my design: in regards to stephens comments
* maintenance (what if we have one more video?),
--we could allocate more space to videos or put them on a seperate page
* difficulty in creating drop-down menus. There's too little information on this page compared to what we need. Maybe we can design our own drop downs by hand from the circular menu, but that's a lot of work.
--- I had thought of the center section or the are where the text is below the circular menu as a section where the menus would appear.
* too many styles, too many fonts. Our logo, the hippy car, the circles, the arrows --> it's just too much. (Might be just intended as an experiment-doc like mine?)
--- there is only one font on the page- helvetica, it's just in different sizes. We can ditch the hippy car. I like the arrows, but they were just experimental, we could look at other options for those menus
* Don't like the arrows. Even with a new graphic, the tendency of separation and spreading is distracting.
---I like arrows but I'm not married to them, all they are is dust in the wind (repetative whistling in the background)
* There is a loss of information: I think the "Green Travel" and other categories are important.
--- these could be easily added in
* the need to have two completely different templates (can't use this design for the regular pages.),
--- I had thought of the other pages as having a slightly different template- I like what jeff did or we could do something similar but different.
* lack of orderliness getting people confused -> it leans towards everyone clicking the demo, which isn't a good first step.
--- that's probably the fault of the arrows, we would just have to decide what is the first thing people click on
* I really don't like the hippy car added as a minor component... there's too many pseudo-logos on the page.
--- let's ditch the hippy car
So those are all my comments. I hope they're helpful.
take care
Erin
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
Hi, great work guys. Out of them all, I perfer Erin's design. It caught my eye because it looks very original and exciting. Stacey's designs are well laid out but are so similar to loads of other websites that they don't make you feel like your dealing with real people. As a traveller, with both Erin's and Stacey's designs, I see the link I'm looking for (share a ride) very quickly. With Jeff's, I don't. Replacing the arrows with the grey box doesn't work.
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Stephen adds:
This is a real problem with the designs, since that is not the right link.
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A few tweaks would improve Erin's design like standardising the fonts, getting rid of the hippy car and adding a subtitle under spaceshare and a GEG link.
I don't see the point of the planners and travellers links. Are those things already covered? We should either have them or the share ride and room and conference and festival planner links.
That's all for now. Cathal.
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
Summary: I prefer Design 2 and Design 3.
Design 1: For the first design, for some reason, I FELT like there were too many images (which is a little strange since the 3rd design has the same amoun but I didn't feel like there were that many). Maybe it's because Green Travels and Networking & Web take up two lines. Also, the SpaceShare logo doesn't fit very well with the design (I did not even see it at first).
Design 2: I liked the fact that you could see all of the information on your screen (no scrolling to see the rest of the writing). Unfortunately, it doesn't contain all of the menu options (Travelers, Event Planners). Also, there are two places that have the word "Explore" (not really significant, but I thought I should mention it).
Design 3: I like this design. I like this particular way of separating the different menus and their images into their own clusters. Also, what will happen if the quotes are longer?
For Designs 3 and 4, I don't think that the background of when the text begins should be that light shade of green. I think it looks weird that the colored background begins below the Green Travels and Networking & Web menu.
Design 4: I don't really like having the picture of the people walking with SpaceShare's logo over that and the quote on the bottom left of the picture.
Also, I was wondering why the SpaceShare was black and white and there was no green? I feel that for Designs 1 and 2, green being incorporated into the logo for SpaceShare would work better.
I sort of don't understand why we have two more buttons for Festival Planners and Conference Planners if we already have Planners in the menu. But I amk guessing that it's because those are the two main types of people who would use SpaceShare.
I am a little worried that there are too many colorful images. I don't know if that really is an issue though.
For Green Travels and Networking & Web menu, I like the icons better than the images (the images were used in Design 2).
I was wondering, will the Green Travel and Networking & Web menu stay where it is when the visitor goes to other pages? If it does stay, then Design 2 works really well because that menu looks more integrated into the design.
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
Some other general comments (might be repetitive): too many links, too many images, need to make sure there are no alignment problems (which I think would probably get fixed in the final draft), black text is bad because it's boring, don't want to make the text look too long or else people won't want to read it (which is why the text for Design 2 looks better than Design 3 and Design 4)
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
Agreed - I lost many of headings and info disappeared as the design evolved - and we should all watch for this, as Stephen has mentioned we went in circles with the GEG for the same reason.
I do think we need to balance the need to include a lot of info with the need to make a site that looks good and attracts users.
POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS:
I think we can add another bubble for Travelers on the homepage. If we use drop-down menus, maybe all the menu content ie {get involved, custom tech, newletter, etc} can all fit into 1 menu?..?? Also, there is room for more small bubbles under the menu to highlight important sections.
Re: Redesign SpSh Home 2009 Overview
The old school buggy on the bottom right with the "contact us" over it was fine in Stacie's design, but I think it looks out of place in Erin's design.
Regarding Jeff's edits to Erin's design, would it be disorienting for the user to click a link and experience a slightly different layout? Where does the menu go?
Images, Quotes, Circles
It's not an absolute requirement, but I like the idea of using and reusing the little icons for carpooling and so on throughout both this site and the actual sharing-sites.
I like the "View a Demo" and such being smaller, the circles are nice... we're not losing key information while creating some extra whitespace. May not work well for quotes, which will often be longer. We are planning to put a different quote on every page. I might even have a different quote pop up as you mouse-over the different functions: under Green Travel, under Carpool, up comes a quote specific for carpooling.
There are going to be cramping issues when we add things like menus, that obviously need to be on every page, to the airy designs.
Packing more meaning into the graphics would be very powerful... I think when we're done, it will matter less whether we use two or three columns, circles or angles, then whether the images are both attractive and explanative.
Stephen posts Sherry's comments
I like the way the left and right menu look. I was wondering if maybe the left side should be more direct and say that SpaceShare provides these tools instead of the indirect way it implies that SpaceShare provides the tools.
I do not think the quote bubble at the top right should have the person's name jut out of the bubble. I think it would be better to just have a rectangular bubble or to not have a bubble at all.
Maybe the blurb pop-out about the GEG should be shorter. Also, I was not sure who you were referring to as "event greeners."
Here is my shortened version: We believe in the broad movement to green events. The Green Events Guide is a great resource for aspects of greening outside our area of focus.
-Sherry
Re: Stephen posts Sherry's comments
To clarify, this comment was with regards to the current design on http://www.greeneventsguide.org/spaceshare/